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Phil Shannon's avatar

I'm actually from the Chesty Bonds era - I remember them well. It was also a time when you didn't have to worry about being a bad 'fat-shamer' if you looked askance on the obese. Now, 'inclusion' means we can't tell the truth about what obesity is doing to health and 'plus-size' models have to be celebrated instead of pitied.

Nice to know that the research literature shows that it is literally smart to lose the excess pudginess by looking after your brain health in a real, physio-biological way.

Robyn Chuter's avatar

If I were a paranoid conspiracy theorist, I might speculate that there were forces that actively promote obesity as one of the many strategies for dumbing down the population and making them physically and mentally incapable of revolting against their neofeudal masters. But that would be batsh*t crazy.

Simonde's avatar

Very interesting!

Robyn Chuter's avatar

It sure is. And disturbing!

Robyn Chuter's avatar

Oh sheesh. 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮. Imagine Chesty Bonds wearing a god-damned mask!

Roc Findlay's avatar

Correct, just another rabbit hole.

Roc Findlay's avatar

Unfortunately,they're all in on it Robyn. National Cabinet Documents will reveal everyone. https://www.afr.com/companies/retail/bonds-owner-rushing-4-million-masks-to-australia-20200802-p55htu

Robyn Chuter's avatar

Big effing surprise - leading shareholder of Hanesbrands, owner of Bonds, is Vanguard: https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/HANESBRANDS-INC-31267/company/

JP Spatzier's avatar

I started an intermittent fasting plan during Covid. It’s 12 hours eating & 12 fasting. Every day. Forever .. it’s been 2 years & Im down 52 lbs… I have chronic health issues & exercising is hard for me .. it’s free .. you got nothing to lose to try 😃

Robyn Chuter's avatar

Congratulations on your fantastic results! It's very health-promoting to go at least 12 hours overnight without eating - strictly speaking, this is time restricted eating rather than intermittent fasting per se. Everyone should be leaving a good 3 hours between finishing eating and going to bed, and then insulin sensitivity isn't that great for the first 2 hours after waking up. Assuming around 8 hours in bed, that's 13 hours without eating. My overnight fast is typically around 14 hours because I prefer to exercise on an empty stomach, so breakfast is roughly 3 hours after I get up.

MacGuffin's avatar

This was very interesting. But there's no Effing way I am adopting a 'plant-based' diet. I'll go with the Alzheimers, thank you. A day without meat is like a day without sunshine. Now, what was I talking about?

Michael B's avatar

Hey, we're all pro-choice here. Informed choice that is.

Robyn Chuter's avatar

Yep, that's the goal!

Robyn Chuter's avatar

I provide information, you decide what to do with it.

But I genuinely am curious about the factors that influence people's dietary choices. When you say "A day without meat is like a day without sunshine", what do you mean? Is it that you don't experience enjoyment of other foods, or that you don't feel well of satisfied without eating meat, or some other factor?

Dr Obvious (DoctorObvious)'s avatar

Myelin is made from fat. It is the insulation around all nerve cells, especially the brain. It makes up the white matter of the brain.

Robyn Chuter's avatar

Absolutely! And that is why oligodendrocytes and astrocytes have such a high capacity for de novo synthesis of cholesterol, phosphatidylcholines, medium and long chain fatty acids (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7226731/).

Dr Obvious (DoctorObvious)'s avatar

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0925443920301241?via%3Dihub

Vegans need to be vigilant for signs of autoimmunity and nutritional deficiencies. God made us with incisors for a reason.

Robyn Chuter's avatar

Did you notice that this study also flagged other diets proposed for MS for their risk of nutrient deficiencies? It also does not provide support for your implication that a vegan diet increases the risk of autoimmunity.

Robyn Chuter's avatar

Large incisors are found in many herbivorous animals, including the hippopotamus. They are clearly not an indicator of dietary adaptation to meat-eating.