I think JJ Couey is really going great guns with his rigorous investigation and open mind. He is a great teacher too, and occasionally waxes lyrical in a profound way about deeper issues. His humility and remorse regarding having vaccinated his kids as per childhood schedule upon returning to the US is poignant and powerful. He is also able to speak respectfully with those we might not too long ago have considered diametrically opposed. His recent presentation to the UK Doctors is the best yet, and the questions at the end are fantastic. Also, thank you for your excellent work, Robyn. It is a pleasure to follow your articles.
Great info Robyn. I believe that via the placebo effect, which can affect up to 30% of the population, it's possible to create disease in people by foghorning them about a new disease and its symptoms, and all with no need for any biological agents or poisons.
There were definitely many people who were afflicted by the nocebo effect. However, very skilled doctors like Shankara Chetty in South Africa, who physically examined thousands of patients, detected distinct symptom patterns in each 'wave', consistent with Couey's theory. It's very probable that South Africa was one of the release sites for whatever biological agent was deployed.
I distinctly remember the Iranian government accusing the US of deploying a biological weapon on it, early in the scamdemic; a large percentage of ministers got gravely ill and there were several deaths.
Once we realize that a healthy lifestyle is so overwhelmingly powerful, the perspective changes. A #WFPB diet can reduce risk of "moderate to severe" covid by 73%, and adequate Vitamin D levels can reduce the risk of hospitalization and death by 80%. After that, there's not much of a pandemic left, so we have a nutrition crisis. We already knew that.
Yes, this nails it to a large degree, and the bottom line is once again that it's the terrain that matters. The whole Lifestyle Medicine/Whole Foods Plant-Based diet paradigm should be conducive to a lifestyle that would realize the nonsense of this type of a pandemic situation. When the initial data of the Diamond Princess came out, I was talking to friend who was hugely afraid, and I focused on the 83% who did not get infected in a very small, confined community. It just screams at you: The microbe is nothing, the terrain is everything, as reportedly Pasteur admitted towards the end of his life, thereby conceding primacy to terrain theory and the work of his rival Antoine Béchamp. OTOH it was also an argument for the virus not being all that "novel," for there must have been latent immunity in that crowd. At the time, I did some back of the envelope actuarials with my friend and she calmed down a lot when we quickly caclulated just how small the real risk was.
I haven't been able to find any evidence that Pasteur recanted from germ theory on his deathbed, but I certainly agree that in the case of normal viruses, healthy people have little to fear. J.J. Couey's hypothesis makes sense of the relatively small number of highly unusual cases that occurred in a few locations early on in the scamdemic. Were these symptoms caused by toxic chemicals, souped-up viruses or perhaps even bacteria (this has been done before e.g. see https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/1950-us-released-bioweapon-san-francisco-180955819/)? I don't know, and I'm not sure we'll ever find out.
Personally I think JJ’s hypothesis is compelling in that it posits a plausible explanation for the vast differences in observable symptoms over the course of the scamdemic.
Nope. It's still based on a 'begging the question' fallacy. I have an upcoming article on this very point.
You can't call the particles that are propagated by means of Enders 1954 methodology "virus" unless youve taken the first step to isolate those particles from a human host, demonstrate they can invade the affected host tissues, replicate themselves, cause cytopathic effects, and spread to undiseased tissue. None of the latter has ever been proven scientifically with suitable controls.
You cannot use Enders "virus" propagation method to prove "viruses" exist while assuming the "viruses" exist in the human samples with no empirical proof.
And Stefan Lanka already demonstrated you can undergo Enders viral propagation technique WITHOUT A HUMAN SAMPLE and the cells will die and release "virus". The particles originate from the METHOD itself, not something which came from the outside and is growing/replicating. Thats what 70 years of virology done without controls has brought thr world.
While I believe gain-of-function is really being done in various labs around the world on real nanoscale particles manufactured by Enders' propagation technique, those particles originate from cell death (CPE) functions of microbiology. They are not contagious or disease-causing AT ALL. That is a an unscientific myth.
Thanks for the article, it is a very useful comparison to my own position.
They do, in fact, because when anyone talks about dealing with the nanoscale particles the scientists call "virus", they are implicitly invoking Enders propagation method to obtain said particles in the first place. Thus the question, "Are they even virus at all?" remains assumed and never proven = begging the question fallacy.
I would not have come to that conclusion if I was not curious enough to look at fundamental questions that none of the virologists want to touch with a 10ft pole.
These are exactly the questions that Couey is grappling with. Seriously, do yourself a favour and watch the video rather than assuming you already know everything you need to know about the subject.
Alright, I did watch it, but I found Sasha Latypova's explanation much easier to comprehend (she adds the critical element of spam genetic INFORMATION):
"Microbiome is part of our bodies’ terrain. Humans cannot function without microbes, nor without viruses. Bacteria and viruses do exist, but they are not scary nor pathogenic in and of themselves, in fact they are vital and necessary for our health. Viruses can be thought of as a communication and messaging protocol/language of microorganisms (and cells in multicellular organisms). Thus, they do not cause an “infection”, but may be involved in cellular miscommunication that accompanies a disease (synonymous to imbalance) state.
Development of sequencing technologies, PCR, and cloning techniques enabled the investigation of microbial communities and their signaling mechanisms. Unfortunately this area of scientific research has been hijacked to the point of destruction and weaponization by the government-corporate mafia cartels in places like NIH and FDA which promote the pathogenic view of viruses and bacteria as disease agents, and prevent any investigation into the true, collaborative, communicative and vitally important role they paly in human health. The FDA is interfering and trying to damage Dr. Hazan’s research. Hm, maybe that’s because the establishment are interested in disease, and NOT interested in health?
Can viruses be modified and turned into a weapon? If you start thinking about it using the communication paradigm, it maybe easier to understand. Psycho-science-paths like Ralph Baric at UNC Chapel Hill can synthetically make false or misleading messages from DNA and RNA by combining and recombining bits and pieces. They can make them in large quantities. They can even make scary messages by adding scary bits! I can tell you stories about vampires - are they going to affect or damage you? That depends.
These artificially made DNA/RNA messages do not “leak” from labs and spread around by themselves because, for one, they do not originate from living bodies, and need to be pushed externally (most effective is when the victims line up for injections of course!) This garbled genetic spam mail can be deployed in the environment and be detected by the PCR techniques. Continuing with my analogy, PCR cannot understand what message you got (make a diagnosis), it can simply detect that there is a message with certain letters in it. That’s how the evildoers created the hoax pandemic: by simply pushing quantities of genetic spam mail and then running the letter detectors in overdrive to detect particular signatures. Simple concept, really."
I think JJ Couey is really going great guns with his rigorous investigation and open mind. He is a great teacher too, and occasionally waxes lyrical in a profound way about deeper issues. His humility and remorse regarding having vaccinated his kids as per childhood schedule upon returning to the US is poignant and powerful. He is also able to speak respectfully with those we might not too long ago have considered diametrically opposed. His recent presentation to the UK Doctors is the best yet, and the questions at the end are fantastic. Also, thank you for your excellent work, Robyn. It is a pleasure to follow your articles.
Thank you! It's a pleasure having curious people who are actively engaged in the effort to uncover truth reading my work.
Is this the UK doctors interview that you're referring to? https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1776522666 It's next on my watch-list!
Yes, that's the one. I'm currently watching/listening to/gardening his latest - "Breggins, Fits, Ness and Malone". xx
Great info Robyn. I believe that via the placebo effect, which can affect up to 30% of the population, it's possible to create disease in people by foghorning them about a new disease and its symptoms, and all with no need for any biological agents or poisons.
There were definitely many people who were afflicted by the nocebo effect. However, very skilled doctors like Shankara Chetty in South Africa, who physically examined thousands of patients, detected distinct symptom patterns in each 'wave', consistent with Couey's theory. It's very probable that South Africa was one of the release sites for whatever biological agent was deployed.
There are many documented instances of both the US and UK military deploying biological agents on their own populations, 'just to see how far they spread', e.g. see https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3154555/How-British-government-carried-secret-biological-warfare-tests-London-Tube-passengers-1960s-Cold-War.html and https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/1950-us-released-bioweapon-san-francisco-180955819/.
I distinctly remember the Iranian government accusing the US of deploying a biological weapon on it, early in the scamdemic; a large percentage of ministers got gravely ill and there were several deaths.
Very interesting
Thanks Robyn, I really like this summary of JJs thoughts. He can be very dense and this is clear, concise and damning
Will read in detail but just checking that this is not an April Fools joke like that naughty Eric Coppolino?? He had me fooled for a few minutes
This one's for reals but I'd love to hear Eric Coppolino's April Fools gag 🤣.
You must read his just released Stack: he says Bobby Jnr is running for president and has crossed over to the No Virus position, it’s a hoot
Once we realize that a healthy lifestyle is so overwhelmingly powerful, the perspective changes. A #WFPB diet can reduce risk of "moderate to severe" covid by 73%, and adequate Vitamin D levels can reduce the risk of hospitalization and death by 80%. After that, there's not much of a pandemic left, so we have a nutrition crisis. We already knew that.
https://juniperpublishers.com/jojnhc/pdf/JOJNHC.MS.ID.555631.pdf
https://www.terraintheory.net/blogs/articles/the-germ-is-nothing-the-terrain-is-everything
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+microbe+is+nothing%2C+the+terrain+is+everything+-+Louis+Pasteur.-a0620013686
https://www.ifsh.fr/actualites/le-blog-ifsh/363-article-le-microbe-n-est-rien-le-terrain-est-tout
on and on.
Yes, this nails it to a large degree, and the bottom line is once again that it's the terrain that matters. The whole Lifestyle Medicine/Whole Foods Plant-Based diet paradigm should be conducive to a lifestyle that would realize the nonsense of this type of a pandemic situation. When the initial data of the Diamond Princess came out, I was talking to friend who was hugely afraid, and I focused on the 83% who did not get infected in a very small, confined community. It just screams at you: The microbe is nothing, the terrain is everything, as reportedly Pasteur admitted towards the end of his life, thereby conceding primacy to terrain theory and the work of his rival Antoine Béchamp. OTOH it was also an argument for the virus not being all that "novel," for there must have been latent immunity in that crowd. At the time, I did some back of the envelope actuarials with my friend and she calmed down a lot when we quickly caclulated just how small the real risk was.
I haven't been able to find any evidence that Pasteur recanted from germ theory on his deathbed, but I certainly agree that in the case of normal viruses, healthy people have little to fear. J.J. Couey's hypothesis makes sense of the relatively small number of highly unusual cases that occurred in a few locations early on in the scamdemic. Were these symptoms caused by toxic chemicals, souped-up viruses or perhaps even bacteria (this has been done before e.g. see https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/1950-us-released-bioweapon-san-francisco-180955819/)? I don't know, and I'm not sure we'll ever find out.
Personally I think JJ’s hypothesis is compelling in that it posits a plausible explanation for the vast differences in observable symptoms over the course of the scamdemic.
Spot on. That's what's appealing to me about his work.
WOW- very technical, but riveting. The guy hosting the video- what are his qualifications- he appears very, very knowledgeable. Thanks Robyn
He has a PhD in neurobiology. His academic page is at https://neurobio-old.pitt.edu/faculty/couey.htm.
Nope. It's still based on a 'begging the question' fallacy. I have an upcoming article on this very point.
You can't call the particles that are propagated by means of Enders 1954 methodology "virus" unless youve taken the first step to isolate those particles from a human host, demonstrate they can invade the affected host tissues, replicate themselves, cause cytopathic effects, and spread to undiseased tissue. None of the latter has ever been proven scientifically with suitable controls.
You cannot use Enders "virus" propagation method to prove "viruses" exist while assuming the "viruses" exist in the human samples with no empirical proof.
And Stefan Lanka already demonstrated you can undergo Enders viral propagation technique WITHOUT A HUMAN SAMPLE and the cells will die and release "virus". The particles originate from the METHOD itself, not something which came from the outside and is growing/replicating. Thats what 70 years of virology done without controls has brought thr world.
While I believe gain-of-function is really being done in various labs around the world on real nanoscale particles manufactured by Enders' propagation technique, those particles originate from cell death (CPE) functions of microbiology. They are not contagious or disease-causing AT ALL. That is a an unscientific myth.
Thanks for the article, it is a very useful comparison to my own position.
Have you watched the video? I strongly suggest that you do as none of the points you've made bear on it at all.
They do, in fact, because when anyone talks about dealing with the nanoscale particles the scientists call "virus", they are implicitly invoking Enders propagation method to obtain said particles in the first place. Thus the question, "Are they even virus at all?" remains assumed and never proven = begging the question fallacy.
So you haven't watched it then? I find the no-virus people depressingly incurious and strangely fixated on a small number of talking-points.
I would not have come to that conclusion if I was not curious enough to look at fundamental questions that none of the virologists want to touch with a 10ft pole.
These are exactly the questions that Couey is grappling with. Seriously, do yourself a favour and watch the video rather than assuming you already know everything you need to know about the subject.
Alright, I did watch it, but I found Sasha Latypova's explanation much easier to comprehend (she adds the critical element of spam genetic INFORMATION):
https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/conversation-with-dr-sabine-hazan
"Microbiome is part of our bodies’ terrain. Humans cannot function without microbes, nor without viruses. Bacteria and viruses do exist, but they are not scary nor pathogenic in and of themselves, in fact they are vital and necessary for our health. Viruses can be thought of as a communication and messaging protocol/language of microorganisms (and cells in multicellular organisms). Thus, they do not cause an “infection”, but may be involved in cellular miscommunication that accompanies a disease (synonymous to imbalance) state.
Development of sequencing technologies, PCR, and cloning techniques enabled the investigation of microbial communities and their signaling mechanisms. Unfortunately this area of scientific research has been hijacked to the point of destruction and weaponization by the government-corporate mafia cartels in places like NIH and FDA which promote the pathogenic view of viruses and bacteria as disease agents, and prevent any investigation into the true, collaborative, communicative and vitally important role they paly in human health. The FDA is interfering and trying to damage Dr. Hazan’s research. Hm, maybe that’s because the establishment are interested in disease, and NOT interested in health?
Can viruses be modified and turned into a weapon? If you start thinking about it using the communication paradigm, it maybe easier to understand. Psycho-science-paths like Ralph Baric at UNC Chapel Hill can synthetically make false or misleading messages from DNA and RNA by combining and recombining bits and pieces. They can make them in large quantities. They can even make scary messages by adding scary bits! I can tell you stories about vampires - are they going to affect or damage you? That depends.
These artificially made DNA/RNA messages do not “leak” from labs and spread around by themselves because, for one, they do not originate from living bodies, and need to be pushed externally (most effective is when the victims line up for injections of course!) This garbled genetic spam mail can be deployed in the environment and be detected by the PCR techniques. Continuing with my analogy, PCR cannot understand what message you got (make a diagnosis), it can simply detect that there is a message with certain letters in it. That’s how the evildoers created the hoax pandemic: by simply pushing quantities of genetic spam mail and then running the letter detectors in overdrive to detect particular signatures. Simple concept, really."