You mentioned in part 1 about those people who don't acknowledge the existence of viruses (a clear distraction and possibly even an attempt to make the whole movement look 'silly'), well here's some extra evidence that they do exist https://www.livescience.com/virus-attack-video
The timing is beautiful isn't it?
Thank you for this very broad overview / framework as well, even if I was already skeptical of much of it for 2 decades now.
Exactly. This reminds me very much of the quote “as our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it” by Einstein.
Darkness in this case, being particularly appropriate. As our knowledge increases, so does our understanding that there are even more unknowns than we could possibly have known before.
A very interesting discussion, thank you. Personally, I would have liked fewer interruptions, so it was more of an interview than a discussion but that's because I wanted to hear what Dr Hughes has found from his research.
Also, the leading of the interview to the topic 9/11 was a shame as it distracted from the talk about the pandemic and will put off some who can only deal with one "conspiracy" at once!
On whether the jabs are a huge scientific experiment, of course it is but if they wanted to know what different batches do for eg would they not want better recording of side effects? They don't seem keen for the MHRA Yellow Card scheme to be widely advertised.
You can't talk about nefarious deep state goings on without talking about 9/11 and since it pre-dates COVID by many years and was a deception carried out on such a huge scale, it's an important part of this huge puzzle. If people can only deal with 'one conspiracy at a time', then they should go back to sleep. This can't be sugar coated or made more palatable. We're in deep shit!
9/11 really was a template for the manufactured COVID crisis, in so many ways. It even included an element of bioterrorism, in the form of the anthrax scare which was gamed out in the Dark Winter Exercise earlier in 2001.
I see that this is a deep (state) problem but linking huge public events together can be a step too far when talking to others, in my view.
I start with the "pandemic" and trying to get folks to stop trusting the authorities is hard enough without being called a conspiracy theorist. If I go back to 9/11 it would put them off listening.
In my case I explain how I realised the government lied and was run by bankers by pointing out the use of false statistics over airport expansion and the breaking of a social contract in raising women's retirement ages just before they retired with no/little notice Those are provable British things that cannot be disputed.
In the interview with David Hughes, I was interested in hearing what he had discovered in his research on the pandemic. His knowledge is my power.
9/11 could be a whole interview on its own as could the assassination of JFK and the origins of WW2.
We have to be clever with our fight back against the propaganda.
I understand your concerns, but I'm writing and speaking to people who already have some grasp of just what a festering swamp of corruption our world has become, rather than 'newbies' who are just starting to wake up to the fact that there might have been something a little off about the response to COVID. There are plenty of content creators who are solely focused on COVID-related issues, for them to learn from.
I made it clear at the end of Part 1 and at the opening of this interview, that I was inviting David back to discuss his paper on 9/11, as well as the involvement of deep state forces in the Nazi atrocities, to draw out the connections between past and current events. I don't know why you watched the interview, if you didn't want to hear this discussion.
I watched the interview because I wanted to hear what David had discovered about the background to the pandemic. I am interested to hear about who is behind it. I have listened to a few interviews when I can and I prefer the ones where an interesting speaker is allowed to talk without interruptions from the host. That is my preference at the moment as I am in information gathering mode! Your programme's style is more conversational which is fine and I really appreciate you giving him a platform. I gave my honest opinion knowing you might take the hump but it is a comment on the style of the show not a criticism of you personally. Other interviewers swear like a trooper, some don't interrupt much, everyone is different. Information is what I seek at the moment. Talking of 9/11 and chipping in constantly are fine for most I expect but I can only speak for myself at this time. Nobody lets me speak or listens to me in my day-to-day life, so I suspect I am overly sensitive at the moment!
I'm not offended by your comment on my interview style; I personally prefer conversations rather than lecture-style presentations, but you're welcome to your preference for the latter. What I don't understand, is why you objected to me asking David about the paper on 9/11 that he had written, which provides crucial background information to the situation we are in now - especially when I made it clear that that was going to be the subject of the interview! If you want to understand what the manufactured COVID crisis is all about, who's behind it, and what they want to achieve through it, you have to grasp the truth of 9/11, and for that matter, the truth of the rise of Hitler. You've got to get your head around the fact that it's the same organisations, and in the case of events of the last few decades, the same people, who engineered WWI, the hijacking of the Russian revolution by the Bolsheviks, the rise of Hitler, the Korean war, the Vietnam war, the assassination of JFK, MLK and RFK, the terrorist bombings that plagued Europe after the end of WWII, the endless military coups in Central and South America, 9/11, COVID-19, and many more events that reshaped societies. I know it's a lot to take in, but time is now short. Humanity stands on a precipice. If we don't shake ourselves out of our mass stupor and recognise that a small number of incredibly powerful psychopaths are trying to strip us of every right and freedom we have, turning us into slaves in their digital prison, then it's game over for us.
I agree we are on a precipice and a % of us think that. A similar % totally bought the Covid story and are still in that cult. The middle % are on the fence or don't care about tomorrow if they're ok today.
We need to talk that middle group round without them switching off first. I fear that joining the "pandemic" with 9/11 will be a step too far. Personally, I have been trying to work out what is going on since March 2020. It has been hard with the censorship and the isolation as it would have been easier to believe everything I was told and to go along with the flow.
I am still grappling with who is running the world. Or my country, Great Britain. What is the 'deep state'? I pull layers off the onion until it makes my eyes run! I have had to learn about how banking works (eg 'going direct'), virology, immunity, history. I have limited time and access to information as it is hidden.
Thank goodness for the few who have done the work for me. I came across David on your channel, and I am so grateful for that as he has added to my knowledge like only a few others. I have to pick out pieces of information to put the picture together. I don't want another topic to learn about like architecture or the assassination of JFK as I don't have time and it is not key to helping people stop complying today. I am willing to take it for read that those two events were not as they seem as others like you and David say so and I will delve into it when I have time. Top of the list though is the here and now.
In order to not be labelled a conspiracy theorist I need to sum up how the financial system works, climate change and energy and how it is linked to current events. Follow the money. Plus there is the eugenic angle and geopolitics as China and Russia are key in all this.
In a nutshell, who would you summarise is pulling the strings if you were asked by a sceptic? The answer will indicate if they were also behind 9/11 and I won't need to spend time researching the collapse of a building.
There's absolutely no need to become an expert on controlled demolition to grasp that 9/11 wasn't carried out by Islamic terrorists, or to become an expert on ballistics in order to grasp that the magic bullet theory proposed by the Warren Commission is bunkum. It's absolutely self-evident to anyone with 3 functioning brain cells.
The most concise answer to your question 'What is the deep state?' that I can come up with is that it is the money power - those who have used the supply of money as debt in order to gain control over the nominal heads of state, whether those be kings, presidents or prime ministers. Over time, its centre of power has shifted from Babylonia to Venice to the City of London to Wall St, with many stops in between. Trafficking of drugs, arms and people is also central to the business model of the money power, because these industries are incredibly lucrative and they also serve to increase the control of those dealing in them, over both the common people and their so-called leaders. There are competing factions, as James Corbett emphasises in his work. I think you'll find his editorial series on BlackRock very helpful in answering your questions - Part 1 here https://www.corbettreport.com/how-blackrock-conquered-the-world-part-1/ and Part 2 here https://www.corbettreport.com/how-blackrock-conquered-the-world-part-2/.
OK, thank you, I will read those links. Interesting that you say the money power has switched to Wall St as some in the US blame "The British Empire" meaning the City of London for pulling the strings. I think you are probably right that they are now the junior partner to the US globalists. I do wonder if the bankers who are doing the dirty work are on board with the eugenics agenda that seems to be a major part of this Great Reset. Massive numbers of deaths are likely in the most injected countries. Maybe 1 in 5 within 5 years according to experts. The govts are going to have to spin these deaths. "Sudden Death Syndrome" anyone?!
I refer you once again to the article from A Midwestern Doctor, linked above. I will not engage further in fruitless discussion with you until you read this article, in its entirety, and demonstrate your comprehension of it.
Perhaps the English translation is a little clunky, but the series of claims/challenges are incoherent and reveal a rather astonishing lack of knowledge of the way that scientific experiments are conducted.
You mentioned in part 1 about those people who don't acknowledge the existence of viruses (a clear distraction and possibly even an attempt to make the whole movement look 'silly'), well here's some extra evidence that they do exist https://www.livescience.com/virus-attack-video
The timing is beautiful isn't it?
Thank you for this very broad overview / framework as well, even if I was already skeptical of much of it for 2 decades now.
Here's a very compelling piece of evidence specifically for the existence of SARS-CoV-2: https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/electron-cryotomography-of-sars-cov
There are so many pieces to the puzzle. I keep learning more all the time.
Exactly. This reminds me very much of the quote “as our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it” by Einstein.
Darkness in this case, being particularly appropriate. As our knowledge increases, so does our understanding that there are even more unknowns than we could possibly have known before.
More unknown unknowns than even Donald Rumsfeld could have imagined ;-).
A very interesting discussion, thank you. Personally, I would have liked fewer interruptions, so it was more of an interview than a discussion but that's because I wanted to hear what Dr Hughes has found from his research.
Also, the leading of the interview to the topic 9/11 was a shame as it distracted from the talk about the pandemic and will put off some who can only deal with one "conspiracy" at once!
On whether the jabs are a huge scientific experiment, of course it is but if they wanted to know what different batches do for eg would they not want better recording of side effects? They don't seem keen for the MHRA Yellow Card scheme to be widely advertised.
You can't talk about nefarious deep state goings on without talking about 9/11 and since it pre-dates COVID by many years and was a deception carried out on such a huge scale, it's an important part of this huge puzzle. If people can only deal with 'one conspiracy at a time', then they should go back to sleep. This can't be sugar coated or made more palatable. We're in deep shit!
9/11 really was a template for the manufactured COVID crisis, in so many ways. It even included an element of bioterrorism, in the form of the anthrax scare which was gamed out in the Dark Winter Exercise earlier in 2001.
I see that this is a deep (state) problem but linking huge public events together can be a step too far when talking to others, in my view.
I start with the "pandemic" and trying to get folks to stop trusting the authorities is hard enough without being called a conspiracy theorist. If I go back to 9/11 it would put them off listening.
In my case I explain how I realised the government lied and was run by bankers by pointing out the use of false statistics over airport expansion and the breaking of a social contract in raising women's retirement ages just before they retired with no/little notice Those are provable British things that cannot be disputed.
In the interview with David Hughes, I was interested in hearing what he had discovered in his research on the pandemic. His knowledge is my power.
9/11 could be a whole interview on its own as could the assassination of JFK and the origins of WW2.
We have to be clever with our fight back against the propaganda.
I understand your concerns, but I'm writing and speaking to people who already have some grasp of just what a festering swamp of corruption our world has become, rather than 'newbies' who are just starting to wake up to the fact that there might have been something a little off about the response to COVID. There are plenty of content creators who are solely focused on COVID-related issues, for them to learn from.
I made it clear at the end of Part 1 and at the opening of this interview, that I was inviting David back to discuss his paper on 9/11, as well as the involvement of deep state forces in the Nazi atrocities, to draw out the connections between past and current events. I don't know why you watched the interview, if you didn't want to hear this discussion.
I watched the interview because I wanted to hear what David had discovered about the background to the pandemic. I am interested to hear about who is behind it. I have listened to a few interviews when I can and I prefer the ones where an interesting speaker is allowed to talk without interruptions from the host. That is my preference at the moment as I am in information gathering mode! Your programme's style is more conversational which is fine and I really appreciate you giving him a platform. I gave my honest opinion knowing you might take the hump but it is a comment on the style of the show not a criticism of you personally. Other interviewers swear like a trooper, some don't interrupt much, everyone is different. Information is what I seek at the moment. Talking of 9/11 and chipping in constantly are fine for most I expect but I can only speak for myself at this time. Nobody lets me speak or listens to me in my day-to-day life, so I suspect I am overly sensitive at the moment!
I'm not offended by your comment on my interview style; I personally prefer conversations rather than lecture-style presentations, but you're welcome to your preference for the latter. What I don't understand, is why you objected to me asking David about the paper on 9/11 that he had written, which provides crucial background information to the situation we are in now - especially when I made it clear that that was going to be the subject of the interview! If you want to understand what the manufactured COVID crisis is all about, who's behind it, and what they want to achieve through it, you have to grasp the truth of 9/11, and for that matter, the truth of the rise of Hitler. You've got to get your head around the fact that it's the same organisations, and in the case of events of the last few decades, the same people, who engineered WWI, the hijacking of the Russian revolution by the Bolsheviks, the rise of Hitler, the Korean war, the Vietnam war, the assassination of JFK, MLK and RFK, the terrorist bombings that plagued Europe after the end of WWII, the endless military coups in Central and South America, 9/11, COVID-19, and many more events that reshaped societies. I know it's a lot to take in, but time is now short. Humanity stands on a precipice. If we don't shake ourselves out of our mass stupor and recognise that a small number of incredibly powerful psychopaths are trying to strip us of every right and freedom we have, turning us into slaves in their digital prison, then it's game over for us.
I agree we are on a precipice and a % of us think that. A similar % totally bought the Covid story and are still in that cult. The middle % are on the fence or don't care about tomorrow if they're ok today.
We need to talk that middle group round without them switching off first. I fear that joining the "pandemic" with 9/11 will be a step too far. Personally, I have been trying to work out what is going on since March 2020. It has been hard with the censorship and the isolation as it would have been easier to believe everything I was told and to go along with the flow.
I am still grappling with who is running the world. Or my country, Great Britain. What is the 'deep state'? I pull layers off the onion until it makes my eyes run! I have had to learn about how banking works (eg 'going direct'), virology, immunity, history. I have limited time and access to information as it is hidden.
Thank goodness for the few who have done the work for me. I came across David on your channel, and I am so grateful for that as he has added to my knowledge like only a few others. I have to pick out pieces of information to put the picture together. I don't want another topic to learn about like architecture or the assassination of JFK as I don't have time and it is not key to helping people stop complying today. I am willing to take it for read that those two events were not as they seem as others like you and David say so and I will delve into it when I have time. Top of the list though is the here and now.
In order to not be labelled a conspiracy theorist I need to sum up how the financial system works, climate change and energy and how it is linked to current events. Follow the money. Plus there is the eugenic angle and geopolitics as China and Russia are key in all this.
In a nutshell, who would you summarise is pulling the strings if you were asked by a sceptic? The answer will indicate if they were also behind 9/11 and I won't need to spend time researching the collapse of a building.
There's absolutely no need to become an expert on controlled demolition to grasp that 9/11 wasn't carried out by Islamic terrorists, or to become an expert on ballistics in order to grasp that the magic bullet theory proposed by the Warren Commission is bunkum. It's absolutely self-evident to anyone with 3 functioning brain cells.
The most concise answer to your question 'What is the deep state?' that I can come up with is that it is the money power - those who have used the supply of money as debt in order to gain control over the nominal heads of state, whether those be kings, presidents or prime ministers. Over time, its centre of power has shifted from Babylonia to Venice to the City of London to Wall St, with many stops in between. Trafficking of drugs, arms and people is also central to the business model of the money power, because these industries are incredibly lucrative and they also serve to increase the control of those dealing in them, over both the common people and their so-called leaders. There are competing factions, as James Corbett emphasises in his work. I think you'll find his editorial series on BlackRock very helpful in answering your questions - Part 1 here https://www.corbettreport.com/how-blackrock-conquered-the-world-part-1/ and Part 2 here https://www.corbettreport.com/how-blackrock-conquered-the-world-part-2/.
OK, thank you, I will read those links. Interesting that you say the money power has switched to Wall St as some in the US blame "The British Empire" meaning the City of London for pulling the strings. I think you are probably right that they are now the junior partner to the US globalists. I do wonder if the bankers who are doing the dirty work are on board with the eugenics agenda that seems to be a major part of this Great Reset. Massive numbers of deaths are likely in the most injected countries. Maybe 1 in 5 within 5 years according to experts. The govts are going to have to spin these deaths. "Sudden Death Syndrome" anyone?!
I refer you once again to the article from A Midwestern Doctor, linked above. I will not engage further in fruitless discussion with you until you read this article, in its entirety, and demonstrate your comprehension of it.
Please read this extremely detailed piece by A Midwestern Doctor: https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/thoughts-on-the-existence-of-viruses. It addresses all the points made in the challenge (as best I can tell, given the poor expression/inadequate translation).
Perhaps the English translation is a little clunky, but the series of claims/challenges are incoherent and reveal a rather astonishing lack of knowledge of the way that scientific experiments are conducted.
Could you send me a link to the contest page? I'd like to see whether the terms are as tendentiously worded as all such competitions that I've seen.