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David AuBuchon's avatar

I've seen some dramatic responses in terminal cases from ingesting as many anticancer phytochemical supplements as possible + some other things. IMO it ought to be malpractice for doctors not do those types of things at least in terminal cases. Instead they often get terrible palliative chemos, nothing at all, or else get pharmed out for toxic clinical trials that cost someone $100k+ and rarely work. Whereas supplements cost $200 to $500 a month.

Robyn Chuter's avatar

Palliative chemo is an abomination. 'Let's give you drugs that will make you feel terrible, and have no chance of curing you, but might shrink your tumour a bit which means absolutely nothing to your survival time.'

I have mixed feelings about the supplements. I've seen so many clients with cancer who come in with a literal suitcase full of supplements. They have no idea whether any of them are working, whether 'working' means controlling the growth of the tumour, or just helping them feel better. I think Myfanwy Webb's suppression-centric approach is a better way to go - choose supplements that are known to act on pathways used by that cancer type (or even better, on pathways used by cells in their specific tumour, if a biopsy is available to test).

David AuBuchon's avatar

I've seen the kitchen sink approach work too incredibly well to not believe in it. I reckon if the suitacase people just had better guidance about what products to fill their suitcase with it would make all the difference. My reading of hte literature is that complementary anticancer activity from combining phytochemicals is the norm, and antagonism is extremely rare. Definitely also seen profoudn elimination of side effects form toxic therapies. I also think supplements can potentially rescue bad chemos and make them work better.

Robyn Chuter's avatar

I agree on the reduction of side effects; when my son was going through radiation and chemo for a brain tumour, I had him taking around 30 different supplements (he sure did learn to swallow pills fast, poor kid). But they were all carefully selected on the basis of evidence that they enhanced cytotoxicity, protected healthy cells, or both. Most of the items in the suitcases that I see are in there because there's some vague claim that they 'fight cancer'.