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Anna Harper's avatar

I have difficulty keeping weight on! I do keep fluids up and eat healthy organic foods, with small piece dark vegan chocolate as treat on occasions. Find protein in the mornings help, no grazing between meals and lots of vegetables. Have friend who is definitely overweight who says she avoids sugar, but coconut flat whites cannot be good for you.

Doing weights, resistance training daily is key for me, as is QiGong and breathing exercises. It really cannot be that hard if one tries! I do think metabolism has a part to play.

But these drugs are dangerous. We will not have a healthy population anywhere in the Western world in 5 years, I suspect we might not even now..

Appreciate your exceptional knowledge on these 'pharmacological' drugs Robyn.

Christian's avatar

I doubt very much we’d be able to field many able bodied people to defend the nation.

Anna Harper's avatar

Sadly I think you could well be right.

Robyn Chuter's avatar

I'm sure if your overweight friend ever kept an honest food journal for a week, there would be little mystery about why she's overweight! I get all my new clients to keep a food journal for 5 days, before their first appointment. It's as valuable for them as it is for me. There's nothing like seeing the evidence of your own indiscretions, in black and white, to wake people up to the contribution they're making to their own health problems!

Anna Harper's avatar

The important word is honest Robyn. Black and white record. Might do it for myself this week.

Robyn Chuter's avatar

Do it! It's incredibly revealing. Even people who don't have any weight problems benefit from it.

Christian's avatar

I guess coffee doesn't count as a weight loss drug, (as it wasn't in the table) .

Whilst I don't drink it to suppress my appetite, I find that it does.

Or maybe I'm just older and no longer feel the urge to eat like a horse.

Funnily enough, I can often work all day at a moderate physical level without wanting food but keeping fluids up. I like to think I'm in fat burning mode.

If I'm working at my desk job, then I get the munchies, or maybe stress/bordeom related munchies,

Different story if it's intense exercise, then I often get into 'pac man mode' when I get home and eat everything in sight!

Robyn Chuter's avatar

I'm with you on the appetite-suppressing effects of coffee! On my once-a-week all-day gardening day, I head out with a KeepCup of coffee and it keeps me going until 12 or even 1 pm. And being deskbound gives me the munchies too - even though I have a standing desk. It seems to be something about getting depleted mentally, while not having enough going on physically.

Christian's avatar

I have a feeling that these weight loss drugs, unlike those in previous 'era's, won't be pulled due to 'dangerous side effects'. I sense that the tolerance for this is greater i.e. regulatory capture

Robyn Chuter's avatar

I fear you're right. The CDC denies to this day that the convid jabs resulted in a single death.

TheLastBattleStation's avatar

This got me thinking about an alleged natural substance that has a GLP-1 agonist effect. I’m speaking of allulose, that no calorie sugar made from fructose. Is it possible that even non-pharmaceutical compounds could still have the same “side effects” as the drug?

Robyn Chuter's avatar

Actually the major substance that triggers GLP-1 release is plain, old fibre. Especially fermentable fibres such as the beta-glucan found in barley and oats. Resistant starch also triggers GLP-1 release. The difference is dosage - drugs raise GLP-1 levels more than 1000 x as high as any substance found naturally in food. So healthy foods make you feel full, but they don't make you blind or suicidal, nor do they give you pancreatitis or thyroid cancer!